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« on: June 04, 2011, 04:23:45 AM »

I've only used apparel vinyl on t-shirts and I have a small job with vinyl on a nylon cinch bag. I have this reoccurring nightmare of melted nylon and complete failure. I'll save the last part for the shrink but what are the settings for doing this? Thanks in advance.

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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2011, 04:42:18 AM »

I'm not at the shop right now to look at my settings notes, but get some thermoflex extra, the kind for use on nylon and follow the directions that comes with it.  Works perfect on all types of nylon garments and bags.  I've used it many times on coats and such as well as a few of the nylon cinch bags.

I order my thermoflex from specialty graphics on the internet: http://www.specialty-graphics.com/

There are many vendors of different vinyls as well that will work just fine.

Good luck and show us the finished product please!
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2011, 05:02:07 AM »

Please excuse my ignorance, as I am quite new to vinyl. I am using a Silohuette cutter and their Silouhette heat transfer vinyl. Don't laugh. If you return to your shop, would you please let me know the settings that you use, so that I can, at least, get in the ballpark. Thanks.
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2011, 06:05:12 AM »

Heating instructions via specialty materials website:

http://www.specialtymaterials.com/index.cfm?id=3&pID=2

Click on the view tech info button and it will give you all you need to know.

Hope this helps!
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2011, 11:28:32 AM »

Well kind of...But the vinyl I have is hot peel. I'll just get a hold of the manufacturer and find out the settings. Thanks for the info and I'm assuming Thermoflex is what to use in the future? The stuff I have seems very thick.
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2011, 04:34:42 AM »

OK. Now I'm scared. Image cut out, vinyl weeded, heat press at 360. I couldn't find any heat press settings online or this forum for the nylon cinch sack. The whole melting idea has got me really freaked out. I'm sorry about revisiting this but I could really use some more advice/moral support. Thanks.
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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2011, 04:57:05 AM »

Oh yeah, the bags are 210-denier nylon.
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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2011, 05:36:43 AM »

The real heat press vinyl such as what Roger sells (www.heatpressvinyl) or Sizer Easy Weed Extra is applied at 305 degrees. The stuff you are considering using is not suitable for nylon.


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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2011, 05:41:11 AM »

Can you do a quick heat test with some scrap vinyl? The specialty graphics stuff I have used in the past has called for heat like in the 311 range... Thermoflex...
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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2011, 05:55:24 AM »

Well that stinks. Why not suitable? Adhesion? I have no scrap but I will here in a minute. Roger's vinyl is the way to go, I would assume. Thanks for helping out a newbie.
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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2011, 06:12:07 AM »

The temperature of 365 would most likely damage the nylon. There is only one way to find out............ go to Wall Mart or someplace and purchase some similar bags. Run tests using the vinyl you have.........

Go to the various vinyl suppliers web sites and search for vinyl for nylon. I am not at the shop computer with my faves list so I can't give you direct links.

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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2011, 07:00:10 AM »

I've done a lot of vinyl on poly bags.  I use multicut according to Joto directions without any problem (320-330 degrees).  I tried sublimation, but the bag cannot withstand those high temps.
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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2011, 07:10:38 AM »

Thanks for all the help guys. Like Yoda said "Do or do not" (doing the funny voice). Well I did. First press at 310 for 30 seconds. Looks mostly good except for a small bubble in one part. I let it cool, repressed with parchment at same heat settings and time. Looks like a winner! I might even press it one more time for good measure. Just as a note, I am trying to use up material that I have on hand (cheap). I will certainly heed everyone's advice on material in the future. Thanks again to all.
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