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« on: March 31, 2011, 01:23:31 PM »

What are and or would be my best options for this logo?  White logo color going on a black 50/50 T.  Could transfers be made from such?

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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2011, 05:08:49 PM »

the problems with doing this with ink jet paper is the transfer has a very heavy hand in most cases...depending on # of shirts I would consider screen print or plastisol transfer or DTG. There is a new paper from Neenah I think...that will do white on black that has a lighter hand but I think it is laser  paper
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2011, 05:53:55 PM »

Any DTG recommendations?
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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2011, 08:07:49 AM »

There are only a few that do black or dark garments such as t jet,Anajet,the new brother and I know there are a couple others
Maybe someone can add to this
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« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2011, 12:39:08 PM »

A screen print transfer might work nicely.
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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2011, 01:14:54 PM »

Pro World said no as is...

A screen print transfer might work nicely.
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2011, 06:16:32 AM »

Pro World said no as is...


Hmm, did they say why? 

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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2011, 11:11:45 AM »

I think this would be a great canidate for all over print dye sub printing,,

you would print on a white tee,, .... and be printing all the black,, to the tee,,

I saw this at the Minneapolis show,,, pretty interesting,,, and you need a huge heat press,,
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2011, 05:07:34 AM »

This needs to be the white graphic on a black tee...

Is this really not an option with any technology?  My bad I suppose as I never would have guessed there would be no option for such  Cry
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2011, 06:49:53 AM »

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Is this really not an option with any technology?

Smoof,

Three options have already been given that could work with the graphic 'as is.'

1.  DTG -- you just need to find a company that has white ink capability.  Though costly this would likely give you the best result.

2.  Transfer paper for darks -- may not be the best option due to the heavy hand of this type of transfer -- but perhaps one of the self weeding laser transfer papers would give acceptable results.

2A.  Research 'digital transfers' at any of the custom transfer houses.  I'm not sure what the exact technology is that they use - it may be similar to transfer paper for darks or it may be a better technology.

3.  The dye sub option would work if you were willing to go with a polyester shirt (vs 50/50).  But as noted, the decorator would in effect, dye a white shirt black, leaving your design area un-dyed and giving the white on black final result you want.  This is also a costly option.

4. Another option not mentioned would be to have the design printed on vinyl (with solvent inks) then contour cut. 

And no, from what I can see the graphic as is it not suitable for screen printing.  Perhaps if you did some color separation and convert that glow into halftones, etc you can get it to work.
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2011, 07:29:51 AM »

LRI has a very soft WHITE fabric patch material. Because of the fact it is offered in 11 x 17 sheets you could print the entire design with heat transfer ink or sublimation ink by creating a oval of the background of the graphic in black. The white areas on the design would equal the white of the fabric. Halftones would be shades of Gray. If you print the image as gray scale I bet it would work. Trim the fabric to just inside the black area of the design.. Apply heat transfer tape over the graphic, the same type used in rhinestone transfers and the backing on heat press vinyl. Peel the baker sheet off. Place the design on the garment and press. Remove the heat transfer tape. Done deal. You are using transfer tape because the fabric has an extremely aggressive adhesive. One slip and you will stick it to its self. The transfer tape minimizes that issue.

Quote from the LRI listing:
White Fabric Patch
For dark goods.   Print with any transfer process, including
inkjet or laser sublimation, as well as CLC and CLP printers,
in 2 easy steps!

The cost is $2.50 per sheet in a 25 sheet pack. You have nothing to loose but a couple of bucks to try it on a reduced size of the original graphic and a scrap shirt. They may even send you a sample. Call them.

http://www.laserreproductions.com/Sublimation-Transfer-Paper.html

I imprint all my left crest and small designs with it using sublimation ink. The material is so thin it has 1/2 the hand of screen printing the same size.
When I get to my shop I will create an image using your graphic to show you what I am talking about.

DTG would be a viable option but I suspect very costly.

I can't tell much from the image you provided. My system will not scale the image up where I can see the details. I suspect a large silkscreen company could create something close enough. The level of halftone and number of screens would be a compromise but doable.

Printed Vinyl and Spot Color transfers would yield the pizza Box effect.
Any paper printed with InkJet would yield a pizza box.
The image must be solid color white, no halftones, for the Nennah Concert Clip to work.

Create a sample with the inkjet paper for dark from Ed at ProWorld or the LRI fabric I suggested or Enmart's paper and submit the shirt to the client.
You will never know unless you try. Just because some of us will not even consider printing on dark garments does not force you to not accept the jobs.

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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2011, 02:50:16 PM »

What a great idea, Ken...."you just keep thinkin' Butch, that's what you're good at"
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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2011, 06:38:24 AM »

i dont know if u have found a solution for the logo, but what i did (For a practice run) is use the 3G opaque paper for darks, 1 st had my design on the computer and outline the design a very  skinny outline tho, for me to know where to cut around with my exacto knife, (remember you dont have to print the paper with a black background just outline it on your program and make the background white) since you have the outline of the design, the outline of the design will guide you where to cut. Once your done you peel off the back of the transfer paper n put your teflon sheet on top and remeber you do not have to mirror the image, and put the image facing you not down like you do for white shirts. And magic you get your design onto the black shirt with your design and graphics it doesnt look bad either i like my designs on my black shirts they dont wash out either or crack!!! just the cutting will be the hassle but if you love what you do it wont matter and i like to work hard so cutting around a design isnt too much work  Tongue  !! if any question just ask i think i described it good!
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